a youtube video interview by Ufohunter taken at the Grove Hotel in Watford, Near London.
George Bishop will be our guest. George is a long term researcher and journalist on crop circles who is very well known in the UK and amongst many foreign crop circle interested parties due to his working on CCCS magazine. Here is Georges CV. He will be joining us on Skype and we should be able to take calls from guests this week… fingers crossed.
“I was involved with CCCS from 1990 although I didn’t “join” that organisation until about 1994. I was Chairman of CCCS and Editor of their quarterly journal The Circular for many years. (The longest serving editor.) Organised several Conferences on Cropcircles at Bristol and Andover. Helped to edit several books on crop circles.I lived in Cornwall and Devon at that time and had connections with both local groups. Editor of Devon magazine “Cyderspace”I worked as an artilcle writer for a Devon magazine which is why I went to see my first cropcircle.Co-operated with PUFORG (Plymouth UFO Group) on an investigation into Bols and orbs. Have had a number of UFO related experiences over almost 60 years.Recently written some articles for www.2012ist on the UFO phenomenon.” – George Bishop
Mr Rob Buckle is the guest. He is a creator of youtube videos on crop circles whic have gained hundreds of thousands of hits. His research of the circles has led him to believe that humans are making the circles. We explore why. Tune in to the show and ask Rob questiosn live via our text chat on the channel.
CirclemakersTV next Weds 15th at 8pm… Anonymous Circlemaker as Guest… revealing their involvement and hopefully some good gossip. www.circlemakerstv.org – CU live next week
Weds 21-12-2011 if not arrested due to the retards.
Show went well and the revelation was the night vision footage froma distant hill of the creation of the Inkpen Serpent – AKA West Woodhay Down. The footage sped up is also available to watch in HD – due the shows low data rate its very hard tio see whats going on so remember to dial up you-tubes resolution to 720 or 1080 for best clarity images…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YREZq2tFB00 THE XMAS SHOW – 2hrs (ep33)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_W0_GVqdxE crop circle footage 6000speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpZKu5lu5w 300 speed
But what is more amazing is that this circle was hailed as being one of the best of the season! It also appears as the front calendar picture of the WSSCG 2012 Calendar. Who can deny then that crop circle researchers haven’t got a clue as to what is man made and what is also man made! See below CLICK PICTURES FOR ENLARGEMENT
HATS off to the circlemakers who made this the seasons biggest, best and most loved circle and MOST MAN MADE We owe you a pint.
Some great Quotes from the crop circle research world
The ‘event’ could be general or specific, perhaps even globally personal. This formation may even refer to the perceived very immediate crisis that looms because of debt default all over the globe, in particular in the United States. As the Go Gratitude Group, Blooming Humans suggest, there are ways to look at ‘destruction’ so that it can be positive: “When one considers ‘Destruction’ from the perspective
of release, clearing, and transmutation, we gain a sense of the GIFT of releasing the past. Allowing what is BUDDING …to BLOOM.”
In any case, at West Woodhay Down, we are being told to BE AWARE! LISTEN TO THE RATTLE! DON’T GET HEATED AND STEP INTO DANGER! STAY COOL! ROLL WITH IT!
Michelle Jennings – posted on crop circle connector site
see what the Chineese researchers had to say on the Crop Circle Connector site… Aliens – Greys… reptilians… wow… very cosmic indeed.
Inkpen - This fantastic example was reported near Inkpen on the Wiltshire/ Berkshire border. Clearly representing a huge serpent with a trident tongue and measuring in the region of 700 feet in length, it is by far the most impressive design of the season so far.
-from WCCSG website click below to see the screen capture taken before they start backpedaling and denying they loved it…the original page it here get it whilst it lasts… LINK
“ABSOLUTELY STUNNING !!! This beauty was reported on the 29th of July 2011 at West Woodhay Down, near Inkpen, Wiltshire. Spread across 11 tramlines with 29 circles making the body of the serpent … The number 29 is key to this formation, adding 2+9 we get 11 … which is a master number … awakening to Oneness ((( All is 1 ))) ! It’s one of the biggest crop circles ever seen in England. The symbolism of the Cosmic Serpent, DNA Activation and Earth’s Kundalini Awakening stand out …”
“ the PSI symbol or the Trident, the Trishul of Shiva as it’s known in India looks like a Serpent’s/Dragon’s Tongue. Is this symbolic of “Quetzalcoatl” …”
taken from THIS WEBSITE LINK
West Woodhay Down Inkpen crop circle July 29, 2011: serpent-dragon represents scalar wave technology seen in our double-helix DNA and the farthest spiral galaxy
AUTHOR UNKNOWN taken from THIS WEBSITE LINK
LINK FOR THE ABOVE WEBSITE CLICK HERE
AND WE WILL FINISH WITH THE BEST SITE OF ALL…
click for enlargements
AKA… HOW TO OVER-COMPLICATE DESIGNING A SIMPLE CROPCIRCLE OTHERWISE KNOWN AS Mr Zef Damens website…. a real mind blower of epic proportions – a must see!
THE CONTROVERSY HAS STARTED -but so far is a bit of a damp quib.
Mr Red Collie some bloke who says hes a doctor, cliamed that the video footage didnt even look like the same field. Wow, frame grabbing the footage at 1:35~:00:00 and comparing it with this photo uploaded as a comparison by a Russian fellow on facebook I was able to come up with the following Animated gif which flips between the trees – showing without a doubt it is the same field. Now how Red Collie can make such vast statements without even cursory research is yet again proof that we are not dealing with reasonable researchers -more proclaimers with no proof.
Photo below is lined up for comparison of THE TREES…
Also its hard to see that the formation is exactly lined up using a similar method to the above because the lens distortion factors are different so there is a stretch taking place (probably on my night vision camera) and also the photo had been taken from a slightly different hillside angle – they daytime show being with the cameraman situated to the left of where I would have had my tripod and the night vision footage seeing the serpent spun slightly clockwise from the daytime photo. I suspect that I may have also been slightly higher up the hill than the daytime photographers position due to my photo being slightly taller and having a more “looking down on” angle than the other.
This photo is lined up in a general sense for the FORMATION.I will do my best to answer anyones questions via this page as a permanent record as Facebook is a piss poor way to archive stuff as it disappears from view too quick. So if you ask me stuff on facebook I will reply there and also up here.
So it IS the same circle, and same field. The sun did not shine for 2 hours, but it was a light from the house (seen on the daytime shot) that is prominent with night vision cameras.
And added a photograph which marries up with the above, so it is clear that like Canus Rufus with a little effort, anyone can see this.Here is their photo. CLICK TO SEE ENLARGEMENT.
AN OFFER TO SETTLE WORRIES ABOUT FOOTAGE ONCE AND FOR ALL.
It would see evident to me that there are two ways to allay any accusations that this is fake footage by giving a copy of the raw darker original 5 hours to whoever wants to act as an investigator. They can study the types of look and feel of the footage and it can be a direct HD tape to tape digital duplication – which is loss-less, its as good as the original – has interlace fields present and everything, timecode signals -U-BITS data.
Next we can take the camera and night vision unit as was used on the night to the same location as the Serpent was in and set up the same shot from roughly the same location. I think I should be able to find it quite well as I had to jump over a fence several times to go back to my car to recharge batteries and swap them over into the camera to continue the 5 hours of shooting. We would only need to shoot say 20 minutes of footage with the range of lenses on that i used on the night and in the 3 different light setting modes I played with on the camera… slow shutter and normal shutter modes.
Provided it is a dark overcast night with no starlight or moonlight it will look much the same as in this footage. We can film on the camera and provide this tape so people can see the lens distortions are exactly the same, the light levels and speckling is exactly the same. We will be able to establish that the trees are in the same place and we can see the light from the country house in the distance doing the beach/bloom effect – provided they have their outdoor lights on like they did on this night.
With the comparison footage I don’t think anyone will question then that this is what the footage looks like when you shoot it on this system and is in no way some form of digital mockup. Someone can even walk down into the field and move around with LED torches and a red laser and we can film these so they show up in the same way as they did on the footage. I am prepared to do this if people like Red Collie will not accept that this is real footage and we will take with us a researcher of Red Collies choosing – provided they are not a certified lunatic.
The point is here that is is so much HARDER to fake footage like this than to actually just go to the hill and shoot circlemakers making a design, which is what we did. To fake something like this and not leave behind a whole raft of give away faults would be a tremendous undertaking. 5 hours of footage is a VAST cgi effort by any standards and I am certain there are will be no evidence of fakery ever found because there is none. The footage is exactly as was shot on the night plus captured in full 1920×1080 25fps interlaced PAL format and the brightness and contrast increased to make the image clearer to see. Thats it.
If people cannot accept that this is how this footage was shot if they make proper representations to me that they want this evidence verified that this is how it was shot I will go the extra mile to provide that evidence – but I am only preapred to do this with fully up-front people who are in proper communication with us – not anonymous facebook users. So there we have it, accept its real or I will give you the extra evidence to prove that it is. Im telling you now though the evidence really is easy to get – just a drive back to Inkpen at night… but if people want to do it, and be there to watch us I am happy to help.
If people like Red Collie prefer to block users like myself on facebook so they cannot reply to his denials then this to me is not a proper way to deal with this. There needs to be a proper open line of communication for this to take place. Its very easy to sit behind a keyboard on the other side of the planet and say things like “looks totaly fake and CGI”. If you want to make statements like that enter into a dialogue with us and we will help you understand that you are wrong.
It may help for people to see the raw original tapes, unedited, uncompressed and then youtube adds its own layer of compression “scumming” (as I like to call it) onto video so it doesnt give you a true HD look by the time you see it on youtube. The original files are so massive we would ave to supply either HD DV tape for original footage but I am also considering uploading the MATROX edited original 6000xspeed and 30000x speed versions which are 3 GB and 1GB to a file sharer site for people to download if they feel so inclined. Do people wish me to do this to see the highest quality possible – if there is a call for it I will do it.
Matthew Williams 25/12/2011
I have uploaded a video to youtube which helps explain the question of “were film lights used”. No film lights were used as these would have required power, cranes and would have given away the location of the circle being made and the farmer would have seen what was happening. Clearly without the permission of the farmer you would never get away with film lights for several hours.
Here is the video
Red Colon (as we like to call him) has been going into overdrive to find excuse after excuse as to why we didn’t/couldn’t have made this video of the making of the crop circle. Now it seems he has reversed his position under pressure of our making rather common sense arguments against his statements.
Now we are accused of using Film lights to work on the crop circle. His statement is as follows:
In the above picture you can see that film lights are rather bright and very noticeable from a distance. This obvious fact seems to have eluded Mr Colon who forgets/didnt bother to research that the farmer at Inkpen was very edgy about his fields and land after an Illegal Rave party was held on his land a few weeks earlier. He was driving around a lot and had he seen Circlemakers working in this field he would have intervened. Testament to the fact that the farmer was very upset about the formation came in the form of threats of physical violence to visitors to the formation and a threat that if anyone went in that he would cut it out. People went in without permission, he quickly got his mower and cut out a lot of the formation and then made further threats to people that he would damage their cars if they tried to visit the formation. This doesn’t sound like the type of reaction of a farmer who knew anything about the formation going to appear. So the idea of film lights is completely out im afraid.
Just to be clear though some people have pointed out in the above photo upper right quadrant that when the frame suddenly gets brighter, which happens because of my manually operating the manual gain control on the night vision to see what adjustment is best before the picture bleaches out or gets too grainy, that a row of lights are seen above the larger security light. People seem to be wondering what these lights are. I am not certain if they are from the mansion house or from other houses nearby. The only way to tell would be to go back and film again – however these seem to just be street lights or house lights which are highly amplified by the sensitive night vision. Bear in mind that even someone smoking a cigarette some distance away from night vision equipment can be seen like them pointing a torch at you! This means that these light may be fairly dim or possibly even invisible to the naked eye but appear on the night vision. I see nothing suspicious in this.
Finally if there is any question as to why the image is brighter in the middle when the iris is turned up – I could offer that towards the edge of the night vision the picture does get slightly fuzzier and darker . So it would be a natural thing for the areas you are pointing at to bleach out if you turn the gain sensitivity up. Seeing as there happens to be the security light in the distance and this is casting a small amount of light towards us – this would account for slght beneficial shadowing of the walls of the flattened crop. The same effect of shadows would be observed by even the moonlight or a bright cloud overhead which could cast shadows. I have a piece of night vision footage shot on a bright summer night when there is a bright cloud overhead and this shows up shadows of trees.
(Here is my youtube video of nightvision shadows from clouds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w9S3EsXdpQ)
Below is my alteration of the photograph to give a sense of what film light would have looked like – were it used – which it was not.
Also take note of how close the film lights are to the National Geographic Circlemakers. See how the light issues forth in an egg/oval shape infront of the lights and quickly dims away. In the nightvision I would say that the light is brighter near the top of the frame and then dims away. You would expect lights trained down into the field to create the egg shaped spot infront. What we see in the nightvision footage is more of an hourglass shape so is the complete reverse of what you would expect to see with film lights. If such lights were pointed directly at the camera you would probably not be able to see anything in the shot due to overloading the camera with light.
This photo was supplied to show a percieved angle from the filming position on the hill towards the trees. I have done an analysis with Google earth also and I find the angles to work out fine for my position. Red Colon has INCORRECTLY pointed in the lower right quadrant with a very sloppy line up and anyone can see that the lower circle lines up – the middle circle is off to the right and upper circle should be much further over again. See below. A quick glance may have been all people got of this photo but as with any angular deviation even a tiny wrong angle will cause a bigger deviation and steer away from the house – so clearly we cannot “let this slide” (pun) and had to point this out.
Red Colons line is yellow and clearly does not point along the central line of the circles – ours does. We used this same line to align our serpent by on the Google Earth analysis and in so doing we have shown the correct alignment. See the video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKmXRwdxt28
The above photo from Google Earth is being used to measure from the centre circle of the Serpent to the middle tree at the end of the field. The distances are as follows:
580.62 Metres = .58KM
I am sure you can now see – putting film lights that far away from the object you want to light is extreme.
Something I have noticed is that the field is not flat – it slants towards the hill. Also at the point where the centre of the serpent is happens to be a kink in the field. This could just be data innacuracies in Google earth but its worth taking into consideration that when you view the serpent to line things up from the side view it will fool you… and you do need to view from above to get correct line up points.
Thank you to this fellow from Russia – who seems intent to speak to us only in Russian – but his photographic analysis is useful and gives some extra ideas as to the light situation from the house.See Below – courtesy – Павел Павлов – Ростов-на-Дону, Ростовская обл. (FACEBOOK) – click to enlarge…
Red Colon also states that the light comes on at 1:30 and stays till 4:00. To be more precise on this what actually happens is the light is probably there the whole time before 1:30 but the camera is tilted down so you cannot see it. Only at 1:30 does the camera tilt get played about with by me and we then have the light in shot.
The latest interesting attempt to deny this footage came from a loud authoritative comment from a youtube viewer to the Inkpen Footage. Here is his comment:
“This giant crop circles is spread over 11 tractor lines.Do you know the width of a single tractor line? For your info the length of the crop circle is more than 600 feet long and if you calculate the length of the serpent (curved length) it’s more than 1200 feet long!! Persons shown in the above video are bigger than 25 feet in height ? they look like giants making crop circles! O Boy !! What a fake video !! Stop this cheap dis-information -you are only fooling yourselves, no body else !! – MrVioletpandora 11 hours ago”
Well the circle was over 11.5 lines and taking into account the fact that the video is slighly blurred then one must remember that pixels will bleed in size over into other areas- however taking a very rough look at a simple frame grab from a random piece of footage – no special reason chosen to pick this bit apart from the fact that you can see two circlemakers, we can then compare like for like in a circle of “similar” size to the one in the nightvision footage. When I say similar I have to say it was hard to find photographs of people standing in the circle in daylight – most people like to publish photos of the Serpent with no people standing inside. If you can find any photos of people in the circles you can try this yourself.
That being said it must be noted that the circle the nightvision circlemakers stand in is a SMALLER circle than the one that the daylight circle person stands in. This will then have the illusion of making the circlemakers seem marginally bigger in relation to the circle they are in. This is however an illusion and you should take it into consideration when viewing this analysis photo. Also you need to bear in mind the camera lens may be a different distortion range and the angles the daylight circle were photographed at are different so things may not appear exactly how they were. That said i think ones 3d imagination and common sense can put together the concept that the figures are about the same size… there is a need then to quadruple the height and scale of the nighvision circlemaker in order to make him 25ft high… As you can see in the photo below – when you make the circlemaker that size there is no comparison.
Below: is the frame I grabbed from the video.
Below: we see the Circlemakers and the daytime circle visitor in roughly the same scale, also the pink line shows you where the daylight photo would have been taken – I spun the image 180 degrees to fit in in the same region as an example.
Below: A blowup of those regions reveals more detail of the 2 circlemakers versus the daylight visitor (whos legs “may” be obscured by the edge of the circle.
Below: Analysis shows us 6ft, 12ft, 18ft and 24ft scales and you see the circlemaker size from head to foot marked with horizontal lines. Next we zoom up the scale of the circlemaker to give an idea of what a circlemaker would look like
Below: So finally just for fun – what would a team of 25ft circlemakers look like in comparison to to the original footage? Here’s what!
And at 25ft high these circlemakers should have completed the 600ft (Im not sure of its exact dimensions BTW) crop circle in about 20 minutes.
EVEN MORE YOUTUBE DENIALS
Knee jerk unresearched opinions yet again form the denials on youtubes comments section for the video. Loudly again a user has a go at refuing the authenticity of the footage by stating that the ring of trees cannot be seen so this cannot be the “landscape seen in the picture”.
This is what was said on youtube:
eeehm – sry but THIS IS NOT THE LANDSCAPE, SEEN IN THE PICTURE! … you can see a bigger fotography here 2.bp.blogspot.com/-hvs1j3jj7mE/TvRI0cGKBsI/AAAAAAAAlG4/K8TMC2SjhJY/s1600/12559.jpg – in the video the head of the snake leads to a small bush, but there is no such vegetation on the older picture… also the “island” of trees (very remarkable) on the old picture can not be found in the video wehre it should be… sry, but some guys seem to have copied this formation somewhere else!!! Feuerbringerin 1 week ago
ABOVE: Borrowed from the crop circle connector website we see the “island” of trees Feuerbringerin is referring to.
As an aside point, yes indeed quite remarkable and cute. However a lof of people dont realise that sadly a lot of copses like this are kept for the purposes of rearing fox dens so there are foxes to hunt.
Admittedly watching youtube videos is not always easy as it doesnt have a slow motion function or frame by frame advance. However if anyone wants to download a hig res copy of the footage to check then use www.keepvid.com which is ahandy utility for ripping off youtube clips. Now with it on your hard drive you can use powerful software like Kmediaplayer or VLC media player to slow motion the video and check it out.
Our video analysis reveals the following timecoded sections which do show the “island” of trees. The final frame grab we show below is the nail in the coffin for this debate as the “island” is clearly visible as is the left hand side of the field which has “tractor tram-line” marks visible.
Times to look for footage are as follows: 1:50:25:10 shows shadow on right which is the circle of trees in the same field. 2:2:14:20 camera pans and tilts for just a couple of frames and again you see again. Not clear but then it is in the edge of the lens of the camera which is distorting/blurring and making that area darker. As I change lens and setting at 2:57:33:15 is very clear showing trees and even left hand edge of field! Proof positive trees were there!
BELOW: The proof positive the trees are there. (click to enlarge)
My final comments to Feuerbringerin are as follows:
@Feuerbringerin Also the BUSH you refer to is not in the field but actually exists on the sloping hill on which the camera is situated. As the hill rolls away steeper and steeper you think you are seeing something in the field. However much more of that bush is visible if one stands up, raises the camera or walks over the steepening slope of the hill the camera is on.
ABOVE: An example show to the hill I was sitting on taken by another photographer. Bushes are visible but obscured slightly. If the correct position was obtained then this would show the left hand bush in the above photo positioned to the right hand side of the night vision video footage .
We will be doing a show that will blow your socks off… all the details behind my arrest due to Agent S failed fake assault shenanegans.
You will not believe what you are about to hear in this show. I fully expect there to be quite a kick back reaction to it.
In the downtime whilst I have been settling into the new place I have been busy transferring old VHS tapes to DVD and compressing these for upload to youtube. There are probably about 40 new videos on youtube for you to see…
this link will dial you directly into the SEE ALL feature of youtube so you can scroll through all the newest clips.
pop along to the links page and select the Peter Sorensen diagrams… or click here.. http://www.circlemakerstv.org/?page_id=118
Due to crapola circumstances we have had to move house. This means no circlemakers TV for a few weeks. We will try and bring you an end of the season roundup show soon or maybe an outside broadcast special…. w2atch this space.
The Sea Shepherd site has acknowledged the circlemakers auction donations on my “MYSEASHEPHERD” page.
I was originally going for $200 and we got $1010 which is great. Visit my page here and donate as my friend and see the total go higher.
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